“Lesbians weren’t ok in the feminist movement. And then lesbians became ok in the feminist movement but then lesbian feminists didn’t want S&M lesbians or dykes to be apart of their feminist movement. So, we get accepted and then we discriminate against somebody else behind us.” - Sarah Humble

For episode 19 we talked to Sarah Humble, co-founder of the Women’s Leather History Program at the Leather Archives and Museum, about her interview with renowned leather community photographer Janet Ryan and her Differently Pleasured photography show of S&M culture. We also discuss the hanky system, feminist sex wars, and S&M lesbians in the lesbian feminist movement.

Listen to the The Lesbian Testimony Podcast - Episode 19.

Look out for our next episode where we talk to Selly Thiam, founder and executive-director of None on Record, a digital media organization that works with African LGBT communities across the African continent and the diaspora.