Jim Egan-- whose early letters to the editor (“it was always a demand for equality rights for the gay community”) and later legal battle against the federal government for the spousal allowance earned him the label ‘gay activist'-- and his partner of over forty years [at time of interview], Jack Nesbit, talk about the activism, farming, earning a living, houses they built, a men’s group they run in the small city in which they live, and relationship issues.